you got the u.s. dollar to play in here as well. >> yeah, well, we have seen treasury yields hovering at the 2%. it's an uncertain on which way they are going to go, you know, if you start to see the equities back off, october, -- of course yields gain in value and there could be panic in the market with people searching for the volatility index or a play like gold or silver. gold is hovering at 1600. there's questions about whether or not it gets a bounce back up or not. liz: weird that platinum and palladium move higher by more than a full percentage point and yet gold and silver moving down? >> it's a story out of south africa right now. there's supply and demand restatements from out of there. over the weekend, there's talk about gunfire, and thank god it was rubber bulleted used. about nine different mining workers there. there were injuries, and as a result of that, there's also that threat for labor disputes. prices should continue to rise on that disruption. >> let's watch that. again, as poin